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JFD140
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 15:30    Post subject: Homemade Lights Reply with quote

Decided to start it as a new thread.

Web site on LED basics


http://led.linear1.org/category/led-basics/

Resistor and wiring diagram calculator

http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz


Place to buy LED diodes in all colors

http://stores.ebay.com/HKJE-Led-Lamp-Center_5mm-R-H-Superflux-LED_W0QQcolZ4QQdirZ1QQfsubZ732657QQftidZ2QQtZkm

Pictures and video of Homemade light by MarkClements

http://www.uwplatt.edu/~clements/images/door_lights.avi


http://www.uwplatt.edu/~clements/images/dash_lights.avi







Parts list, to be updated as informed

5mm Superflux LEDs
Resistors
Perf board
Shelving Rail
Flasher unit???
ABS plastic
Black paint


What i still need to know from you mark if possible

Picture of wiring of lights
How the light is mounted to the rail
What gets sealed with silicone
How the flasher is wired in and what kind of flasher
Where to get sheets of perf board and which kind of perf board
How you wired 9 lights to 1 resistor.
What does your ground go
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 16:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll see if I can bust out the camera and soldering iron in the next few days and give a walkthrough of how I made my lights. Stay tuned!
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 16:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark,
If you want, I can put a webpage together from your write up and pictures and host them.

--Pat
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 16:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

the easier you guys can make this for me the better! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 17:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just need a pic lol... if you wanna make a walk through even better but a pic of the finished product would be fine.

The thing i dont understand is how you were able to use 1 resistor for 9 lights, the calculator tells me i need 3
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 19:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends on the wattage of the resistor and its resistance.
...and the operation voltage also - but ok, lets say 12V Wink
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 19:05    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

Mark basically I am going to be using the exact same bar, except amber. I think th eonly thing that confuses me is what does each post of the individual LED's get connected to?
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 20:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

The videos don't work for me for some reason. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 20:26    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

[quote:b0629685cc=\"DaveCN5\"]Mark basically I am going to be using the exact same bar, except amber. I think th eonly thing that confuses me is what does each post of the individual LED's get connected to?


There's a postive and negative side of the LED. One's called the anode and the other cathode, hopefully I spelled the correctly.

*Simplified Version*
In the 3 LED Chain, you'd connect the wire coming from either 12V or the Flasher for the channel/output to the positive on the 1st Led, the 1st Negative to the 2nd Postive, 2nd Negative to 3rd Positive, 3rd Negative to Resistor (non-directional), Resistor to ground


12V+ -> LED1 -> LED2 -> LED3 -> Resistor -> Ground

For each Pod/Module, each chain/series would be connected to the same 12V/Flasher Channel for positive switching Flashers.

Pod/Module - Cluster of lights that you want to all turn on at the same time, not the 3x3 Grid Mark mentioned in the other thread.
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 20:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark the video was great. Do you sell these and how much would you charge?
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 20:33    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

[quote:19983a7915=\"hawkspringsfire\"]Mark the video was great. Do you sell these and how much would you charge?

I asked the same thing, but he told me I could just build one! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:05    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is how I build a bar in a nutshell

http://www.uwplatt.edu/~clements/Silverado_Lights/build%20a%20light.htm

I'm sorry in advance for the poor quality of the close up pics. My camera just didn't want to cooperate.

I'm no professional. Build at your own risk, but they have worked fine for years for me.

Thanks for all the positive comments guys! I enjoy building my own bars, but I don't sell them or build for people I don't know personally. Please ask any questions you want! I hope to start a trend of people creating their own lights. Maybe we can have some contests to see who can create the most original/brightest/most creative?

Its a lot of fun, so enjoy Cool
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:09    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

[quote:9d0015a61a=\"noxin\"][quote:9d0015a61a=\"DaveCN5\"]Mark basically I am going to be using the exact same bar, except amber. I think th eonly thing that confuses me is what does each post of the individual LED's get connected to?


There's a postive and negative side of the LED. One's called the anode and the other cathode, hopefully I spelled the correctly.

*Simplified Version*
In the 3 LED Chain, you'd connect the wire coming from either 12V or the Flasher for the channel/output to the positive on the 1st Led, the 1st Negative to the 2nd Postive, 2nd Negative to 3rd Positive, 3rd Negative to Resistor (non-directional), Resistor to ground


12V+ -> LED1 -> LED2 -> LED3 -> Resistor -> Ground

For each Pod/Module, each chain/series would be connected to the same 12V/Flasher Channel for positive switching Flashers.

Pod/Module - Cluster of lights that you want to all turn on at the same time, not the 3x3 Grid Mark mentioned in the other thread.

+1 what he said Smile

LED1 -> LED2 -> LED3
12v + ->LED4 -> LED5 -> LED6 -> Resistor -> Ground
LED7 -> LED8 -> LED9


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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:15    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great Job Mark!

The only thing I have a question on is... Smile

In your write up and the pictures you have originally, you show only one Resistor for the 3x3 Grid.

The LED Calculator you provided earlier says One Resistor per 3 LEDs.

Why the discrepancy? I realize it works, but are you over-driving the LEDs with too much current?
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:16    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sweet thanks Mark, unfortunately I won't be able to build it until, May Sad
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks like a long and confusing process. I think I will stick to buying them already made. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:20    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

[quote:40f8ada92b=\"noxin\"]Great Job Mark!

The only thing I have a question on is... Smile

In your write up and the pictures you have originally, you show only one Resistor for the 3x3 Grid.

The LED Calculator you provided earlier says One Resistor per 3 LEDs.

Why the discrepancy? I realize it works, but are you over-driving the LEDs with too much current?


The resistor drops the voltage for the entire circuit. So, since they are all sharing the same resistor, the voltage gets dropped across all of them.
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

So mark, what size resistor are you using?
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:22    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

[quote:3e7d76273d=\"hawkspringsfire\"]That looks like a long and confusing process. I think I will stick to buying them already made. Laughing


Hehe... nothing wrong with that either Smile

Once you get the hang of it, the process goes quickly. I build a module with 5 3x3 grids on it in around 45 mins. Lightbar in my front window took about 10 -11 hours to build.
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:23    Post subject: Re: Reply with quote

[quote:98c77512c9=\"DaveCN5\"]So mark, what size resistor are you using?
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there anyway you can get a better picture of the back side of the perf board showing how the series is connected and where you have the resister. I for whatever reason can't seem to get my head around what is actually going on back there haha. I am very interested in building some lights of my own but have been intimidated by the overly scientific diagrams and explainations I have found elsewhere online, yours makes a lot more sense. I have two more weeks off from school so I think I may try to get one of these done before i get back to school.
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 22:18    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow mark thanks so much im definately gonna build it now.


The only other questions i have are like stated above if you can take a quick better picture, and i still dont understand how you have 1 resistor for 9 lights... the calculator tells me i need 3 resisters for 9 lights.

Also, as far as the power goes i cant really tell in the picture, did you wire the first positive led in the first 3x3 to the first led in the chain of the second 3x3? If so is it the same for the ground?

Also, where can i buy perf board like that?
What EXACTLY did you silicone?
And how are the lights held to the rail
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[quote:7d6bdbc9d4=\"whackersanonymous\"]Is there anyway you can get a better picture of the back side of the perf board showing how the series is connected and where you have the resister. I for whatever reason can't seem to get my head around what is actually going on back there haha. I am very interested in building some lights of my own but have been intimidated by the overly scientific diagrams and explainations I have found elsewhere online, yours makes a lot more sense. I have two more weeks off from school so I think I may try to get one of these done before i get back to school.




That make sense?
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 22:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

the two circle things are the restisters? Very cool that is VERY helpful! I am really pumped to start getting these things built, think i may make a radio shack run tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 22:36    Post subject: Reply with quote

yea thanks a bunch.

How bout the other questions?

Especially how to use less resistors



Thank you SO MUCH by the way, you are an unbelievable help and i cant wait to start the project.

I had no idea those bars you made are only an inch in width, thats incredibly slim for something that from your videos appears to be well worth the brightness.

so just to be sure, if i went and bought

http://cgi.ebay.com/New-100X-Superflux-Blue-5mm-R-H-LED-Lamp-10-000mcd-F-S_W0QQitemZ7623967149QQihZ015QQcategoryZ66948QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/New100X-Superflux-White-5mm-R-H-LED-Lamp-15-000mcd-F-S_W0QQitemZ7623989902QQihZ015QQcategoryZ66952QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

i would be buying most likely the exact ones you used correct?

If you get a chance an answer to the other above questions in my previous post would be outstanding

Thanks -JFD140
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