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JFD140 Regular

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 254 Location: Long Island, NY
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MarkClements Frequent Poster
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 1577 Location: Platteville, WI
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 16:12 Post subject: |
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| I'll see if I can bust out the camera and soldering iron in the next few days and give a walkthrough of how I made my lights. Stay tuned! |
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noxin Regular

Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 437 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 16:18 Post subject: |
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Mark,
If you want, I can put a webpage together from your write up and pictures and host them.
--Pat |
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DaveCN5 Contributing Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 4230 Location: Fairfield County, CT
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 16:45 Post subject: |
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the easier you guys can make this for me the better!  |
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JFD140 Regular

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 254 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 17:36 Post subject: |
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I just need a pic lol... if you wanna make a walk through even better but a pic of the finished product would be fine.
The thing i dont understand is how you were able to use 1 resistor for 9 lights, the calculator tells me i need 3 |
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ukr Contributing Member
Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 941 Location: Germany
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 19:00 Post subject: |
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depends on the wattage of the resistor and its resistance.
...and the operation voltage also - but ok, lets say 12V  |
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DaveCN5 Contributing Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 4230 Location: Fairfield County, CT
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 19:05 Post subject: Re: |
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| Mark basically I am going to be using the exact same bar, except amber. I think th eonly thing that confuses me is what does each post of the individual LED's get connected to? |
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Turbocharger Regular

Joined: 09 Aug 2007 Posts: 786 Location: Vancouver, WA
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 20:17 Post subject: |
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The videos don't work for me for some reason.  |
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noxin Regular

Joined: 07 Oct 2007 Posts: 437 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 20:26 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:b0629685cc=\"DaveCN5\"]Mark basically I am going to be using the exact same bar, except amber. I think th eonly thing that confuses me is what does each post of the individual LED's get connected to? |
There's a postive and negative side of the LED. One's called the anode and the other cathode, hopefully I spelled the correctly.
*Simplified Version*
In the 3 LED Chain, you'd connect the wire coming from either 12V or the Flasher for the channel/output to the positive on the 1st Led, the 1st Negative to the 2nd Postive, 2nd Negative to 3rd Positive, 3rd Negative to Resistor (non-directional), Resistor to ground
12V+ -> LED1 -> LED2 -> LED3 -> Resistor -> Ground
For each Pod/Module, each chain/series would be connected to the same 12V/Flasher Channel for positive switching Flashers.
Pod/Module - Cluster of lights that you want to all turn on at the same time, not the 3x3 Grid Mark mentioned in the other thread. |
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hawkspringsfire Contributing Member
Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 2314 Location: Torrington, Wyoming
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 20:27 Post subject: |
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| Mark the video was great. Do you sell these and how much would you charge? |
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DaveCN5 Contributing Member
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 20:33 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:19983a7915=\"hawkspringsfire\"]Mark the video was great. Do you sell these and how much would you charge? |
I asked the same thing, but he told me I could just build one!  |
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MarkClements Frequent Poster
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 1577 Location: Platteville, WI
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:05 Post subject: |
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Here is how I build a bar in a nutshell
http://www.uwplatt.edu/~clements/Silverado_Lights/build%20a%20light.htm
I'm sorry in advance for the poor quality of the close up pics. My camera just didn't want to cooperate.
I'm no professional. Build at your own risk, but they have worked fine for years for me.
Thanks for all the positive comments guys! I enjoy building my own bars, but I don't sell them or build for people I don't know personally. Please ask any questions you want! I hope to start a trend of people creating their own lights. Maybe we can have some contests to see who can create the most original/brightest/most creative?
Its a lot of fun, so enjoy  |
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MarkClements Frequent Poster
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 1577 Location: Platteville, WI
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:09 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:9d0015a61a=\"noxin\"][quote:9d0015a61a=\"DaveCN5\"]Mark basically I am going to be using the exact same bar, except amber. I think th eonly thing that confuses me is what does each post of the individual LED's get connected to? |
There's a postive and negative side of the LED. One's called the anode and the other cathode, hopefully I spelled the correctly.
*Simplified Version*
In the 3 LED Chain, you'd connect the wire coming from either 12V or the Flasher for the channel/output to the positive on the 1st Led, the 1st Negative to the 2nd Postive, 2nd Negative to 3rd Positive, 3rd Negative to Resistor (non-directional), Resistor to ground
12V+ -> LED1 -> LED2 -> LED3 -> Resistor -> Ground
For each Pod/Module, each chain/series would be connected to the same 12V/Flasher Channel for positive switching Flashers.
Pod/Module - Cluster of lights that you want to all turn on at the same time, not the 3x3 Grid Mark mentioned in the other thread. |
+1 what he said
LED1 -> LED2 -> LED3
12v + ->LED4 -> LED5 -> LED6 -> Resistor -> Ground
LED7 -> LED8 -> LED9
Last edited by MarkClements on Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:16; edited 1 time in total
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noxin Regular

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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:15 Post subject: |
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Great Job Mark!
The only thing I have a question on is...
In your write up and the pictures you have originally, you show only one Resistor for the 3x3 Grid.
The LED Calculator you provided earlier says One Resistor per 3 LEDs.
Why the discrepancy? I realize it works, but are you over-driving the LEDs with too much current? |
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DaveCN5 Contributing Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 4230 Location: Fairfield County, CT
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:16 Post subject: |
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Sweet thanks Mark, unfortunately I won't be able to build it until, May  |
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hawkspringsfire Contributing Member
Joined: 21 Jul 2007 Posts: 2314 Location: Torrington, Wyoming
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:18 Post subject: |
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That looks like a long and confusing process. I think I will stick to buying them already made.  |
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MarkClements Frequent Poster
Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 1577 Location: Platteville, WI
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:20 Post subject: Re: |
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[quote:40f8ada92b=\"noxin\"]Great Job Mark!
The only thing I have a question on is...
In your write up and the pictures you have originally, you show only one Resistor for the 3x3 Grid.
The LED Calculator you provided earlier says One Resistor per 3 LEDs.
Why the discrepancy? I realize it works, but are you over-driving the LEDs with too much current? |
The resistor drops the voltage for the entire circuit. So, since they are all sharing the same resistor, the voltage gets dropped across all of them. |
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DaveCN5 Contributing Member
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:21 Post subject: |
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| So mark, what size resistor are you using? |
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MarkClements Frequent Poster
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:22 Post subject: Re: |
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[quote:3e7d76273d=\"hawkspringsfire\"]That looks like a long and confusing process. I think I will stick to buying them already made.  |
Hehe... nothing wrong with that either
Once you get the hang of it, the process goes quickly. I build a module with 5 3x3 grids on it in around 45 mins. Lightbar in my front window took about 10 -11 hours to build. |
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MarkClements Frequent Poster
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:23 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:98c77512c9=\"DaveCN5\"]So mark, what size resistor are you using? |
100 ohm 1/2 watt |
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whackersanonymous Frequent Poster
Joined: 03 Jul 2006 Posts: 1301 Location: UVM Northern Vt
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 21:27 Post subject: |
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| Is there anyway you can get a better picture of the back side of the perf board showing how the series is connected and where you have the resister. I for whatever reason can't seem to get my head around what is actually going on back there haha. I am very interested in building some lights of my own but have been intimidated by the overly scientific diagrams and explainations I have found elsewhere online, yours makes a lot more sense. I have two more weeks off from school so I think I may try to get one of these done before i get back to school. |
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JFD140 Regular

Joined: 09 Dec 2007 Posts: 254 Location: Long Island, NY
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 22:18 Post subject: |
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wow mark thanks so much im definately gonna build it now.
The only other questions i have are like stated above if you can take a quick better picture, and i still dont understand how you have 1 resistor for 9 lights... the calculator tells me i need 3 resisters for 9 lights.
Also, as far as the power goes i cant really tell in the picture, did you wire the first positive led in the first 3x3 to the first led in the chain of the second 3x3? If so is it the same for the ground?
Also, where can i buy perf board like that?
What EXACTLY did you silicone?
And how are the lights held to the rail |
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MarkClements Frequent Poster
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 22:26 Post subject: Re: |
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| [quote:7d6bdbc9d4=\"whackersanonymous\"]Is there anyway you can get a better picture of the back side of the perf board showing how the series is connected and where you have the resister. I for whatever reason can't seem to get my head around what is actually going on back there haha. I am very interested in building some lights of my own but have been intimidated by the overly scientific diagrams and explainations I have found elsewhere online, yours makes a lot more sense. I have two more weeks off from school so I think I may try to get one of these done before i get back to school. |
That make sense? |
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whackersanonymous Frequent Poster
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Posted: Tue 1-Jan-2008 22:33 Post subject: |
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| the two circle things are the restisters? Very cool that is VERY helpful! I am really pumped to start getting these things built, think i may make a radio shack run tomorrow. |
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JFD140 Regular

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